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Life, Recalled

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The setting for this interview with Mamie McFadden was done in her home at 10786 S. Peoria, Chicago, Illinois. The house is a brick cottage with a concrete based metal rail porch. Mrs. McFadden welcomed me at the door and mentioned that her cleaning lady had recently departed and that she was excited to do this interview. Walking in the door at 12:30 in the afternoon, I was greeted with the aroma of cooking cabbage from the rear kitchen area. The living room, where the interview would take place, appeared to stop in time. There was no doubt that this home was decorated in the prime of her life during the 1970s. The orange plastered walls contrasted with the crème ceiling, along with the square tiled mirrors on the south wall, took me back …show more content…

Verner has just described a common heritage shared by many African American women who were surviving during the early 20th Century. I could not help but think what a pleasure it would be to have interviewed Mrs. McFadden’s mother, who may have been the ideal womanist in South Georgia.
I asked Mrs. McFadden, “How are things now versus back when you were growing up?” She said, “Things are much better. We have more freedom now.” That statement alone may be the crux of the entire interview. More freedom means we have come a long way, but we still have a long way to go. More freedom means that in some ways hidden segregated practices are still being performed, unbeknownst to many. McFadden agreed with this assessment saying, “It is not the same. They try to hide racism now, but when I was growing up there was no guessing or having to ask; you knew they were racist. They were more open back then.” African Americans in many ways are still under the chains of slavery, segregation, and racism. She spoke of segregated bathrooms and classrooms. To my surprise, she spoke of the segregated church. They were all Baptist in the eyes of God, yet, in the eyes of men they were black Baptist and white Baptist. She spoke of the movie theaters and how they would sit in the rear, while the whites sat in the front. She said something so simple, “In the South and nobody knows why, but white folks hated blacks!” As I reflected I thought to myself, “I have been

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