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Chapter 1. Before Philosophy: Myth in Hesiod and
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Ailin Lopez-Ayala posted Sep 14, 2023 9:59 PM
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After reading the chapter and learning about the backstory of the Greeks and Trojans. As
well as the discussion on whether to believe myths even after being passed down through
traditions. As a Mexican American being passed down with non-traditional myths does
show the language barrier of being told different myths yet how many are similar to
seeking the power and honor. I noticed a pattern between each of the myths, they both
ended with wanting honor and power. Relating to how current myths can be also have the
same effect as old ones with the moral of hunger for power and seeking honor. Even in the
21st century, humans are still driven for power and honor. Like the Greeks and Trojans
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mortal men, both groups sought for power and honor, yet each were given sometime of
injustice from what they assumed was a justice move. The men were hurt for the removal
of the women from their grasp which can still be seen in nowadays. less
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Alexis Joyner posted Sep 14, 2023 11:44 AM
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Hesiod's "Theogony", provides information on the birth and genealogy of the gods. Hesiod
describes the emergence of the cosmos from Chaos and the subsequent rise of the
Olympians, led by Zeus. The "Theogony" shows the Greeks' perception of divinity, fate, and
the divine forces that govern the world. "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" show human
exploits during the Trojan War and the Odyssey of Odysseus in a sense, they are
intertwined with mythology. The gods and goddesses mangle in the lives of mortals,
shaping their fate and sharing the human experience. When reflecting on the pieces shared, as well as insight into Greek Mythology. The texts
made your mind twist and turn in different ways that overall, reflected more on religion and
its stronghold on many people's consciousness. Even though the writing could be seen as
harsh it pays tribute to the passion and pride people had. I believe that that same passion
and pride is seen in all of us, just reflected in different ways. Their passion was something
to look to and strive to be similar. I would, in a way, want to have a similar perception as
the Greeks when speaking on divinity and fate.
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Discussion of Philosophical Aacts and According to my Belief Syst
Aqeel Al-Kinani posted Sep 15, 2023 8:53 PM
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Philosophy can be defined in the general sense in the ancient world as the search for truth
regarding the universe, its nature, and man. The first person to use the word philosophy
was the Greek philosopher Pythagoras, who described himself as a philosopher. The
meaning of philosophy does not become clear unless one delve deeply into the core of
philosophical problems, learn about the ways philosophers think about them, analyze them,
and prove the solutions they arrive at. The philosophical definition does not take place and
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is not understood unless a person understands the philosophical problems and the
evidence for their solutions. Facts, philosophers like to say, are opposed to theories and to
values and are to be distinguished from things, in particular from complex objects,
complexes and wholes, and from relations. They are the objects of certain mental states
and acts, they make truth-bearers true and correspond to truths, they are part of the
furniture of the world. Not only do philosophers oppose facts to theories and to values,
they sometimes distinguish between facts which are brute and those which are not.
Philosophy according to my beliefs, term Islamic philosophy and its methods of use vary,
and it is defined as that philosophy emanating from Islamic law, and that it is that
philosophy that presents a complete conception and vision about what is related to the
universe, life, creation, and the Creator, but the most common use is what includes
philosophical works and perceptions that include the framework of Arab-Islamic culture.
The Islamic civilization and philosophy are linked to religious truths and Islamic legal texts.
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Chapter 1
Ashton Frazier posted Sep 15, 2023 10:37 PM
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The first chapter was so interesting to me because I never really understood philosophy to
the fullest, but just by reading the first page I was able to furthermore understand what
philosophy is and why it exist. For an example, the first paragraph targets the reader by
asking questions that we've all thought or heard before, "What is this life about", "Where
do us humans come from" ect. This instantly grabbed my attention and helped me
understand more about philosophy because every now and then I ask myself that question.
Us humans have never seen the first humans or the start of this world/life so it is normal
for us to ask those questions. The chapter also talked about "myths" and how these are
philosophers answers to those What and Why questions that we ask.
Personally I believe us humans are under one God who sent his son, Jesus Christ, to die for
all of our sins so that we may be able to have eternal life. I don't want to push this ideology
on anyone, nor discredit anyone who believes otherwise but there is some evidence of this
belief system being true. In the last book of the Bible, Revelation, it predicts many things
that will happen in our modern world such as the Euphrates river drying up, famine,
plagues, and many more we have yet to experience. I believe the reason us humans exist is
because we have a creator. Humans are way too complex and unique to have been created
any other way. Everyone is so different there had to have been an actual creator
personalize and handmade each one of us.
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Chapter 1. Before Philosophy
Brandy Carmona posted Sep 15, 2023 10:17 PM
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Chapter One, "BEFORE PHILOSOPHY Myth in Hesiod and Homer" delivers two halves
dividing Hesiod and Homer explaining the philosophical styles of both. Hesiod is a poet
who tells his myths/stories directly and gives endings with a purpose. For example, the
Titans are described as powerful gods that once ruled. The myths explain their story and
every person involved connects somehow. Homer is a well-known poet who also has
inspirational myths that are seen as tales and stories. I have never read or looked into
either Hesiod's or Homer's myths/tales because as cheesy as it sounds, I believe in science
and what can be proven but, after reading and gaining some information, it is fascinating
how they both are very different but are both looked upon in philosophy. From reading
chapter one, Hesiod seems like a more informational poet while Homer seems like a
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Chapter 1 Discussion 9-13-23
Brayden Krueger posted Sep 13, 2023 9:29 PM
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In the readings of Chapter 1, we are introduced to two Greek poets by the names Homer
and Hesiod. These two are some of the greatest Greek poets known today. Their poems
and tales of how life came or was back then have imprinted many individuals' theories.
While Hesiod is geared more towards the idea of gods ruling over all and not dealing with
humans too much, he brings tales of how the world came to be. The conflicts between the
Titans and the creator, "Heaven," how the gods eventually went into the world by being
born through Rhea, the mother of Kronos' children. The gods set a natural and moral
universe, even though they may not be the best individuals. They still guard significant
factors of human lives. Homer focuses more on human life and the passion for morality among the offspring of the
gods. Gods are not brought up as much in Homer's work as in Hesiod's, but they still play
significant roles in the tales. The gods were more or less helpers to the human race when
things went sideways. The honor was a recurring theme in his writings and was the most
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important thing to humans. The tales were focused on heroes and their individual stories
for glory to be gained.
For me personally, I think the idea of all the gods is fascinating. Having power over their
domains and changing them instantly is a radical theory. I can not say I believe in a system
of that nature. I am more monotheistic than polytheistic, but again, the idea resonates
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Carl Penick posted Sep 11, 2023 10:49 AM
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The discussion of philosophy begins in ancient Greece. The author states that some of the
very first methods of storytelling and the passing on of history was through the use of
embellished myths. Philosophy started when people would begin to analyze these stories
and question if they were true, searching for the answer of what was "truth". This would
lead to instances of conflict when philosophers would begin to question the legitimacy of
these stories because often times they would be considered heretics for going against the
words that were accepted as factual and divine.
I believe that at the time of ancient Greece, it was incredibly important that the creation of
myths be encouraged, because it gave a common belief that the citizens could use to unite
with each other and find common ground. The stories almost always seem to tie together
with each other, telling stories of great feats performed by strong people and divine gods. I
also noticed that the myths usually carry themes of punishing those who commit heresy or
disrespect to the gods, this could be because the government of that time wanted to
dissuade its citizens of going against their rule and teachings.
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Myth in Hesiod and Homer 1-8 assignment
Christian Paz posted Sep 15, 2023 5:38 PM
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I'm not sure if I missed any information but I can't seem to find the materials on this
anywhere. Will you please let me know how to access this information or let me know
where to find this book.
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