A Comparison Of Plato, Dover, And Plato

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Mia Shehadi Prof. Dresser Classics 361 Midterm Option 2.A 30 October, 2017 Plato, Dover, and Plato The response I’ve chosen to expand and challenge is number four, partly because its the only one I’ve completed and in another part due to the incredibly complex subject matter. Response four asks us to pick apart the characteristics K.Dover attributes to homosexuality in classical Athens in comparison to Plato’s definitions in Symposium. I discovered that both articles weren’t defining the same things; while Dover was speaking about the literal act, Plato touches on the more philosophical aspects of the acts- the moral implications. I’m going to focus and expand on the specific aspect of domination in sexual relationships by bringing in the complicated, and flippant, context of The Republic’s Book 5- also by Plato. I believe that this text can add a competing idea, the ideal city containing equality, complicating the hierarchy and bringing in a more wholistic view of the ideals. In his text Greek Homosexuality, Dover describes the roles of the ‘active’ and ‘passive’ lover, defined by the age of the men. The older erastes, who is considered the dominant lover, and the younger eromenos, as the passive beloved. This demonstrates the hierarchy that is established between homosexual lovers (Dover 16). After the eromenos reaches a stage in his life where he becomes a ‘man,’ his role is then switched to the erastes, giving him the ability to look for his own eromenos. If a boy
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