Jacob Sebert
November 13, 2013
Descartes Dream Theory
Descartes arguments in meditation I can be proven wrong through discrepancies and contradictions. Authors Peter Simpson and Ludwig Wittgenstein's have similar points on skepticism where they have found specific inconsistencies. When primarily looking at Descartes’ dream argument we can see a contradiction in his statements. He sets out to demonstrate the similarity between “waking” and “dreaming”. His intention was to prove that there is no difference between the two, and that we could be seeing false deceptions and or possibly hallucinating. Therefore there would be no way to prove the differences between “dreaming” and “waking”. But when looking at his arguments there are a few
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If there are no differences, then he has no choice but to conclude the fact that we could also always be awake. This still follows Descartes’ argument because it means that dreaming and waking are the same and have no difference. He assumes we are always dreaming and everything we experience is false delusion. Assuming that we are just dreaming is inconsistent with the first part of his argument, that dreaming and waking are the same. How can we believe they are identical when at the same time he wants us to assume we are only dreaming?
Descartes’ dream argument states that there are no differences between dreaming and being awake, which means there is no way of knowing if we are ever awake or dreaming. This is why he says we could always be in a dream. This means that everything we sense may not be real, just false perception of reality. The things we see in our dreams are stored in our mind. This helps Descartes determine what real knowledge is.
He says that there is no way of proving that we are “dreaming” or “sleeping”. “There are no certain indications by which we may clearly distinguish wakefulness from sleep”. He then explains the experiences of reality and dreaming: “I am now here, sitting by the fire, wrapped in a warm winter gown, handling this paper, and suchlike. Indeed, that these hands themselves, and this body are mine.” (First Meditation, Page 14-15, SEC. 18-19) He explains his experiences in lucid dreams
It is important to address these types of questions through analysis of his dream argument in his Discourse on Method. It is also significant to consider and incorporate the critiques of other philosophers, such as Barry Stroud, who have examined the Cartesian argument for skepticism about the world in which we live. It is evident, in stumbling upon many reviews and critiques concerning Descartes’ dream argument, that there is current scholarly interest in his breakthrough modern
The Dream Argument of Rene Descartes is a philosophical skeptical argument used by Descartes himself to put into doubt the existence of any knowledge he has gained from his sense. There have been many interpretations of Descartes’ Dream Argument by different philosophers, and one notable example is that of Barry Stroud’s example. Stroud, in his Problem of the External World, describes the Dream Argument as an argument where “we must know we are dreaming if we are to know anything about the world around us” (Stroud 30). This reading by Stroud describes the Dream Argument as an altered form of an argument from ignorance, which would have a general formulation as such:
Descartes argues the reliability of the senses, the dreaming argument, and the evil demon argument. Dream argument is the method of doubt that rules out trusting one's senses that an external world of physical objects exists, including people. My own body and other people may be dreams so we are not sure. The evil demon hypothesis is the idea that an evil demon has placed memories, causing doubt in your own memories. The method of doubt rules out trusting that our memories are true. It’s important to doubt ideas because it gives a sturdier foundation to knowledge. We get our experiences from our senses that our senses can deceive us. For example when you dream you sense real objects. In the moment you perceive the objects as real but when you wake up you realize you were
The question that he had, which becomes the basis of the argument, was how can one differentiate between dreaming and being awake? This becomes a vital part of his hypothesis. Descartes is known to doubt the doubt and research the doubt before he can deem it as truth. He does this via Method of Doubt. This argument is similar to that of his senses being prone to deceit.
On the other hand Descartes is still skeptical as to whether or not he is dreaming and could not distinguish between being a wake and being asleep. He never finds his real reality and starts to question
Descartes hypothesizes that we cannot distinguish the state of being in a dream and being awake. As a result, he concludes that our sensory perception is unreliable, and we should strip down our judgement through sensory perception and
In Descartes, What Can Be Called to Doubt, he discusses whether or not everything around us is real, or fake. He believes that there are opinions we form that are false, but we fail to realize it. So, by questioning each belief, one could then find the truth in what we believe. He also states that most of our beliefs we get from using our senses. Then he questions our senses in the context of dreaming. When dreaming you cant tell if you are awake or not. At this moment you could be dreaming and there would be no way to prove or disprove that. Descartes then brings God into the picture saying, "How do I know that he hasn’t brought it about that there is no earth, no sky, nothing that takes up space, no shape, no size, no place, while making
Descartes starts of his meditations with a very simple idea. That he has no concreate evidence that he, or anything else exists. Descartes has a few reasons to question his existence, the first on being that our senses can be deceived, easily enough in our everyday lives. How are we supposed to trust the senses that are known to fail us quite frequently? Another reason Descartes gives for doubting is the fact that an evil mastermind could have been our image of God, constantly trying to change how we see things or manipulating our thoughts, and perceptions. The last reason for doubt that Descartes talks about is the possibility that all of existence could have been, and will be a dream. Dreams are so realistic that anyone inside the dream would
He states that he often has perceptions of real life, but when he is asleep. He believes he is awake due to the realness of his surroundings when he is actually asleep. Therefore, he believes there is no definite sign to tell if one is dreaming or awake. With this being said, he believed all his perceptions could also be false when he was in a dream state. As I read this, I found it very interesting. Dreaming can be a surreal “location” at times, and it is truly amazing how complex the human brain is. I can definitely see how he comes to this conclusion, but due to scientific and psychological advances this simply is not the case. Furthermore, Descartes begins to argue his own statements. He explains that it could be argued the images that we see in the dream state can be created by scenarios and situations from our everyday experiences. Although most of the things that are dreamt we
In Rene Descartes, Meditations on First Philosophy, the first meditation he hypothesize an argument which suggest that there is no definitive way to validate whether we are awake or dreaming. Now, Descartes does not actually believe that the world we live in is an entire dream, he uses the dream argument as a way to break us in our beliefs and acceptance of sensory experiences; causing doubt. In the meditations Descartes target is to investigate knowledge. In order for the metaphysical problem to be dealt with it is important for Descartes to sort out truths and know with certainty. He successfully unravels all attempts to show a difference in being conscious versus unconscious validating his argument. First I will explain why Descartes presents the dream argument, next I will explain the dream argument itself, and lastly, I will proceed to prove it true.
If an object or thing does not think, it does not have a mind and therefore it does not exist. Descartes' mind body split theory led him to believe that the information we receive through our senses might not be accurate. An encounter he had led him to attack the idea that our senses contain accurate information and he began to question whether he existed. In Descartes' dream argument, he argues that our dreams can be so vivid and so real. Because our dreams can feel so real, this does not allow us to know if we are awake or in a dream state.
Rene Descartes uses his writings in Meditation I and II to attempt to decipher if everything that he has already known is real or if it is just a trick on behalf of God. Interestingly, Descartes believes that his senses deceive him, and that God could be deceiving him as well. Another interesting point that Descartes states is the concept of dreaming, which he compares dreams as if they are painted images. However, then what is the case if the dream that we are dreaming represents something in which has already happened while we were awake? Does this occurrence mean that the event is happening all over again, or is our mind just too consumed with thinking about the situation again? Following Descartes statement about how we rely on our senses to know what is true, and since we do not use all of our senses while dreaming, then the event that occurs while we are in a dream state cannot be true. We do know, however, that we exist
If we did not have this stipulation, the Deceiver, with its God-like power but imperfect nature, would not exist to cast doubt upon our worldly views. Instead, we must look earlier towards the beginning of Descartes’ Meditations. One thing that Descartes does prove at the beginning of his Mediations is that our senses are sometimes false. The most clear example of this is the existence of dreams. Dreams exist as fabrications by their very definition yet they can depict worlds much like our own and provide experiences that are so vivid that when we wake we immediately cast doubt upon whether we are awake or not. Some people may even experiences dreams within dreams, which beg the question; are the experiences we are having at this very moment a dream? With the existence of this question, and other similar ones based on false sensory experiences, Descartes has created the platform to question whether any of our experiences can be true if some of them are false. While Descartes may state that our external world may be just a fabrication of the Evil Deceiver, it is because of the following question that there is no reason to trust our senses. If some of our experiences are false and some are true, how do we tell the difference with our rational
For example, dreaming versus when you are awake. In dream states, your senses deceive you making you imagine things that are not in existence, which is a reasoning of Descartes losing faith in his senses reliability. Descartes states, "Whatever I have up till now accepted as most true I have acquired either from the senses or through the senses. But from time to time I have found that the senses deceive (Meditation I, 12)." Descartes raised a more precise strategy for questioning the legitimacy of all sensory perception. Since his most clear dreams are inside indistinct from waking knowledge, he contended, it is conceivable that all that I now "see" to be a piece of the physical world outside him is actually just his very own creative imagination. On
The belief that things are real through sense is invalid, and he discovered he could not use them to discern what is real or not. That was because the senses are electrical signal interpreted by the brain. Descartes realized that sense could not be used to confirm the reasoning of what is real because, the senses often impede the mind in many operations, and in no case do they help in the perception of ideas. Descartes had very vivid and realistic dreams which lead him to study his own dreams. He first believed that his dreams were messages from God and that it would give him purpose.