Even without war, people can still have conflict based on their own definition of what is just. An example of this is Moses, who with patience and faith, negotiated with Pharaoh, and always stood firmly against him, despite Pharaoh’s stubbornness against allowing His people to go (Exodus 5:2). Moses and Aaron never acted harshly against Pharaoh, and took a completely patient approach in order to achieve their goal. They peacefully confronted the Pharaoh and told how powerful and wonderful God was, and how no matter what Pharaoh did, God would free the Israelites from Egypt. During the times when God did inflict plagues against the Pharaoh, they were all indirect and did not physically pain him in any way (Exodus 7:14 – 10:21). With God’s powers, …show more content…
This caused them to ignore the perspective of their enemy. Even though the Trojans and Achaeans were constantly fighting, they sometimes forgot even exactly what they were fighting for. They knew they wanted to win and gain justice, but at what cost? On top of that, the war also tended to often break off into miniature “sub-wars.” Certain warriors would be in fights against individuals, providing a completely new reason to fight: to murder, win back their armor, or to avenge a death. The gods were inclined to use the Achaeans and Trojans as the pawns in their chess game of life, using their powers to help their favorites escape from danger. Or if they did not like them, they would hold them back, ultimately interfering with outcomes of the whole war (Book 1:508-510). The meanings of justice could then change, depending on the situation at hand. There were many situations where the Trojans or Achaeans did not fight necessarily for their own justice, but instead for a god’s justice against Zeus. Nevertheless, the warriors would still try to advance and reach justice, but at the end of the epic it was difficult to remember what exactly the whole war was about. With constant aggravation from the gods, the Trojans and Achaeans seemed to be just fighting for something blurred in the end. Regardless, the warriors relied on aggression and …show more content…
In Exodus, there was never any signs of doubt and God’s plan for justice was always consistent. Because of this, Moses’ purpose did not waver during the negotiations with Pharaoh, preventing him from understanding Pharaoh’s perspective. Moses followed the orders of God and obeyed his every command, never doubting him for a second (Exodus 3:12). He believed that if anyone was going to pull him and his people out of exile, it would be God. The idea of following God and His love was so simple to Moses, that he completely ignored occurrences that any person today would have fled from. Moses was the one to continuing approaching a burning bush, and listened to it talk. Despite listening to an inanimate object prophesize to him, Moses knew that the message was whole and pure and instantly believed that this destiny would lead the Israelites to justice (Exodus 3:17). Throughout the rest of his journey, Moses and God shared a similar definition of justice, which is an important reason why they were so successful with their plan. Since God made His plan for Moses and the Israelites so clear, Moses had no choice but to accept God’s perspective and began to trust that His justice was exactly what was needed. It was that simple for him. Nothing distracted him from his conquest, and God’s vision became his
The Greeks show us some of their culture through their will to fight and how important it is to beat the Trojans. They show how important military and war are to the Greek culture in many ways. They first way they show it is by having every Greek army join Menelaus to go to Troy to get Helen back. They all decided to join him since it’s the right thing to do and they know that they are a stronger army with more men. They had tens of thousands of men willing to fight the Trojans to help Menelaus get his wife back from Paris and the Trojans. Another way they show how important it is to them is by deciding to continue that they want to fight without Achilles and his army. Achilles was a Greek hero the best warrior, and had the best army,
“Friends and companions, Have we not known hard hours before this? My men, who have endured still greater danger, God will grant us and end to these as well. You sailed by Scylla’s rage, her booming crags, you know the Cyclops’ boulders. Now call back your courage, and have done with fear and sorrow. Someday, perhaps, remember even this Will be a pleasure. Through diversities of luck, and through so many challenges, we hold our course for Latium, where the Fates hold out a settlement for us. Troy’s kingdom there shall rise again. Be patient: Save yourselves for more auspicious days” (The Aeneid, Book 1 Line 261-273). I choose this quotes as a positive treatment towards the Trojans because it shows
If you’ve ever been caught in a fight between two people you may be pressured into taking sides. Now there’s three sides to every story: one person’s side, the other person’s side, and the truth. After reading both the Odyssey and the Aeneid, you can see that both sides of the war have a different perception as to how it was won. Each side was portraying a different story as to how the horse got inside Troy and the battle. In the Aeneid, Virgil uses the Trojan’s generosity to make it seem like the Greeks only won because the Trojans are good people.
The entire Trojan war is strung up by the gods. The warriors being used as puppets and are used to settle disputes between the gods. They can make prophesies and tell the future, causing certain events to happen. Troy was fated to fall one way or another. Achilles, the strongest and most powerful warrior of the Greek army, was told that he could either fight or leave.
There are overt distinctions between the Trojans and the Greeks while marching into battle in Book 4. The Greeks advanced in order, “holding their voices in their chests, all silence,/ fearing their chiefs who called out clear commands” (IV. 499-500) They are united, disciplined, and calm opposite to the cacophony of noises from the other side. Their seemingly collected energy is due to who they are fighting for - their kings. Their loyalty to Atridae are the only reason they are on the battlefield, as they follow every whims of their kings. After 9 years of war, they are ready to return home, as their enthusiasm is seen in Book 2. Yet, just as in the battlefield, they await their orders and obediently wait. In contrast, the Trojans stand in
Let’s compare the warfare of both periods, in the dark ages the Trojan war took place, the reason we know that this possibly happened is from the epics that Homer wrote such as the Iliad. In the Iliad, you have “Achilles’ Anger” which followed a Greek hero Achilles. He was a “role model” to all Greek soldiers at the time so we can only assume many soldiers shared the inclinations towards war (spoils, glory, honor), soldier’s perspective on the king (unjustly laying claim to larger amounts of spoils of war), and camaraderie among soldiers (Achilles’ reaction to the death of his friend). This is a very personal point-of-view on the soldiers that fought that war. We can only assume that much of the wars fought were chaos, and fought one on one with small major fights throughout. Then we have the “The Melian Dialogue,” which was written during the classical period of Greece about Athenian and the Melians. In short, the Athenians were encroaching on the island of Melos, a colony of Lacedaemon that would not submit to Athens like other island states. The Melians refuse to give up their freedom for the sake of survival, Athenians lay siege on the island and eventually forced surrender. Then Athenians killed all the grown men, sold off the women and children to slavery, and colonized the island with 500
To win the war, the Trojans felt they must fight unfairly as the Greeks did. This is how they started to change. As the war raged on, Troy became more like its enemy-the Greeks. This isn't good because even if the Trojans had won the war and driven the Greeks out, their post- war society would have been very different from the pre-war society.
A brief overview of the whole story, Trojan War is to compete for the most beautiful woman in the world, Helen, caused by army of Agamemnon and Achilles. They attacked
When they got on the top of the mountain, God saw that Abraham truly had faith in him, thus he sent a ram instead so that Abraham did not have to sacrifice his son. Abraham never had a doubt in God’s will and was offering even to sacrifice his own flesh and blood to prove his undoubting faith. Moses on the other hand, questioned God. When he first encounters God in the form of a fiery bush, Moses questions God’s will by asking, “Who am I, that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelites out of Egypt?” (Exodus 3:11). Although he meets God in a physical form, he still questioned him with doubts of his own abilities. Unlike Abraham who had unquestioning faith, Moses started out his relationship with God with a lack of faith. Eventually, Moses does develop the same undoubting faith that Abraham processed. Only initially did he have doubts about his relationship with God.
Courtney Austin Period 4 C-D February 21, 2017 The Iliad “Two Peppa”, Prompt 12 In the Iliad, the gods play many significant roles in the Trojan war. Different gods picked sides between the Trojans and the Achaeans, and some went as far as physically going in and helping one side or the other.
This is an example of how the emotions of the gods play a major role in the outcome of the Trojan War.
Evidence of war exists beyond written records, found buried under earth in piles of broken ancient cities and human made weapons. Throughout the history of man, war has occurred between all types of developed and undeveloped civilizations. Even between thousands of years apart, the Israelites and the Greeks both have an established record of war, each interlacing gods and humans within their histories. Yet regardless of how war has been repeated throughout history, its effect and portrayal in literature shows great diversity; the relationships between deities and mortals as well as the portrayal of fighting written in the Tanakh and The Iliad differ tremendously. The Homeric world illustrates the humanizing aspect of both the Greeks’ and the Trojans’ fighting in a war led by human conflicts, while the biblical world portrays the one-sided annihilation of nonbelievers and foreigners, in wars driven by God’s command.
The stories and myths that we hear about the Trojan War are truly exciting and interesting, but have you ever heard the story explaining why this war was fought in the first place? Odds are you probably have not. Truth is, the reason this war was fought was because of the poor judgement of a young prince.
Moses was a humble man, but God sees that he is mightier than Moses sees himself. When God tells him that he must lead the Jews out of Egypt, he grows fearful and unworthy of such a task. Moses humility toward God is what makes him capable of such a tremendous mission. Although, he would have much rather not lead the Jews out of Egypt because he is afraid and does not have faith in himself, however, he is able to do it because God has told him to and God would not ask him to do so if it was impossible. Moses successfully leads the Hebrews out of Egypt. Moses was capable of freeing the Jews of slavery with a quality of humility (No Title, 1986).
According to Homer, the Trojan War began as a result of a kidnapping. Prince Paris, the son of the King Priam who ruled over Troy, was sent to Sparta as an ambassador of peace. The king of Sparta, Menelaus, had a beautiful wife, Helen. Prince Paris fell madly in love with Helen—some say the gods made him fall in love with Helen because of a decision he made earlier in his life (ask Mr. Moore to tell you about it)—so he kidnapped Helen and took her back to Troy. Naturally, Helen’s husband, Menelaus, was not very happy about the abduction of his beautiful wife. In fact, he went to the king of all of Mycenae, Agamemnon (Who happened to be his big brother), and asked that he assemble all of the warriors of Greece to go after Paris in order to get his wife back. Agamemnon was looking for a fight with Troy (Troy had great riches Agamemnon wanted to take for his own). So, he assembled all of the greatest warriors of Greece, including Achilles, and launched 1000 ships from the shores of Greece in pursuit of Paris and Helen. This is why it is said that Helen was so beautiful that she had “a face that could launch a thousand ships”.