Before I begin my final round, I want to thank my opponent for this debate. I have no doubt that he truly believes what he is professing. Though this is unconvincing to me, it cannot be said of my opponent that he is attempting to deceive or put forth arguments he does not believe in. I hope it is understood that I feel I too have been sincere. With that, I will provide my analysis of both cases and why I think I have won this debate.
Pro’s Case
My opponent has claimed that Jesus is historical. That he performed many miracles including raising himself from the dead. That we have good reason to believe these miracles happened due to so called eyewitnesses. He concludes that accepting those things prove that the Jesus is God. I maintain
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I, like pro doubt the stories of Muhammed, Sri Sthya, and others. For me this is consistent with my view doubting Jesus as God. For Pro, this is inconstant based on his arguments. Pro does argue that “while eye witnesses are helpful for proving things, you got to make sure that they weren 't deceived.” This is a reasonable thought but not helpful in this debate. We have no way to make sure that those who witnessed Jesus were not deceived. If we did, this would not be a very interesting debate as we would simply know as a matter of fact.
Pro asks "can my opponent name one person in history that claimed to be God and yet wasn 't also insane or a liar?" This is easy, every Latter-day Saint. I was raised Mormon, and while I no longer identify as one, it is a core tenant that we are all Gods. While I find the belief silly and unsupported I don’t believe the millions of members to all be insane or liars.
Pro also states that because Jesus is referred to as a “good teacher” it is fair to say he was not a liar. I feel this has been addressed sufficiently. It is obvious people can be both good teacher’s and liars. To believe otherwise is to lack interacting with society at all.
During this debate we have discussed whether New Testament Sources are valid historical accounts. I mentioned that Tom Clancy novels meet the same criteria as the Bible for being accurate. To this he says “That is a fair point. The problem is
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