Nagel discuses a lot about subjective character which he explains as what it’s like to be a specific organism. He believes that there are some experience that are completely beyond human understanding. Nagel states that even if you have an excellent imagination you still wouldn’t know what it’s like to be a bat. He argues that even if you can imagine what it’s like to have webbed arms and feet or hang upside down that doesn’t help you to know how a bat truly experiences its experiences. Each organism has a unique perspective and conscious experience that is only understandable from its own point of view.
However, it seems Skloot chose to include this anthropomorphic language here to jolt the reader out of that state of mind and view the cells in a non-scientific way.
He states in the book, “Perhaps, if my first introduction to humanity had been made by a young soldier, burning for glory and slaughter, I should have been imbued with different sensations” (Shelley 2005). This quote describes the creature recognizing that his environment directly affected his behavior and personality. He grew up around
If I see an apple, I don't only see it, but I imagine how it feels, tastes, smells, sounds as I bight into it. It is hard to separate each of those from each other, but the sound of an apple being bitten into without the knowledge of it being an apple or knowing what it tastes or smells like, is a novel idea. To think of it separately is difficult, but if you can isolate it, it is truly fascinating, exciting even, for it is like a whole new experience.
In every person, a self which interacts with the world appears to live. However, what can one truly classify as their persona? Cognitive scientist Bruce Hood defines illusion as, “[the] experience of something that is not what it seems.” By this denotation, he classifies the ego as illusory; humans naturally experience it, but it does not actually exist. Accordingly, in Pablo Neruda’s “The Egoist,” Neruda contrasts personal identity with the natural world, deeming abandoning one’s individuality a necessary step to obtaining lasting satisfaction with existence. Neruda conveys his idea as a physician would a diagnosis; first identifying the problem’s nature, then outlining its effects and solution.
In Axolotl, after the narrator comes to the realization that his consciousness is trapped within the body of an axolotl, he is horrified by the fact that with his “human mind intact, buried alive in an axolotl, [he is] condemned to move lucidly among unconscious creatures.” Immediately after this realization,
When this is done, the individual is not experiencing what it feels like to experience as something as something. Instead, the question suggests that the individual is experiencing himself, as a bat. This way, Nagel is suggesting to take out the third person perspective of the whole thing and making his example circular. It is simply begging the question and does not really support Nagel's argument on the subjectivity of consciousness. A better way to use the example might be for Nagel is say that bats have very unique experiences and that it cannot be understood by another living thing.
There is a human organism located exactly where you are located. Eric Olson argues that you are identical to that organism. This view is known as animalism. His “thinking animal” argument takes the following form: (1) There is a human animal where you are located; (2) If there’s a human animal where you are located, it is thinking; (3) The only thing thinking where you are located is you; and (4) So, you are a human animal. One argument, which exhibits parallel reasoning and boasts premises motivated in the exact same way, may be employed to resist Olson’s argument. In this paper I will show that this argument, which I will now call the Guanilo-Style argument, is structurally
While this argument does contain some merit, it fails to recognize that individuals may only reach their full potential and sense of self when confronted with the unknown. As one reviewer notes, the ability for the two beings to both share and embrace two different worlds “succinctly captures how our interactions with others shape and mould us as individuals” (Cook). By embracing the unknown and unfamiliar, the two beings open themselves up not only to a new world of ideas, but to a world of love and beauty and hope and faith, a world that would never have existed if not for taking a chance to experience that which was different from their own knowable
All the brown bat are dying because the fungus is infection that the bat have that’s why they are dying out. That’s why the bat’s are dying to fast and in New Jersey were 30,000 bat. The fungus kill all most every bat because in 2008 where 30,000 but then it was only 300 left, the fungus work better in other bats because when they are asleep the fungus make them move around.
Since we cannot communicate in an effective way to these animals, some people find it hard to believe that animals really do experience subjectivity. However, it seems that every person can understand that animals such as dogs, cats, and primates seek pleasure and avoid pain. These two ideas are contradictions of each other because if an animal seeks to enhance its subjective experience, it must follow that they do have a similar subjective experience as humans. Not surprisingly, just like the mentally retarded children that were previously mentioned, even if these animals cannot solve complex math problems, read or write, or compose music that these animals are still subjects of life. It follows that if these animals are subjects of life that they should also fall into the domain of equality of
Nagel then proceeds with his argument by demonstrating why we cannot know ?what it is like to be a bat?. A human has an imagination and could therefore imagine what it would be like to have the characteristics of a bat. However, a human cannot imagine what it is like for a bat to be a bat. Nagel supports this by saying, ?if I try to imagine this, I am restricted to the resources of my own mind, and those resources are inadequate to the task.? (p.536). I agree with Nader on this point. In order for me to experience what it would be like to be a bat I would have to make the actual transformation to a bat and there is no way for me to do that. The only other possible way for this to occur would be by a proper explanation about the mind of a bat but this too
The nature of “I” is entirely socially, its main characteristic is the ability to become an object for oneself, hence, the ability to self-consciousness, which distinguishes it from inanimate objects and living bodies (p. 378). The features of the behavior and the establishment of the group, a specific socio-cultural system, a certain society, according to Mead are the concepts of “generalized other." Elements of the generalized other can also be inanimate objects in the form of objects of material culture and physical environment.
One of the most controversial topics in modern philosophy revolves around the idea of non-human animals being considered human people. Controversy over what makes up an actual person has been long debated. However, society deems it as a set of characteristics. The average person normally does not realize how complicated a question this is, and in fact many scientists, philosophers, and individuals will side differently on this specific topic. I personally do not believe that animals are capable of being human people, but throughout this argumentative paper I will address critical views presented from multiple philosophers on why this seems to be the case.
In philosopher Thomas Nagel’s “Other Minds” chapter of his book, What Does It All Mean?, the philosophical problem of considering minds belonging to others is posed. The issue mainly revolves around privileged access, which restricts someone’s knowledge of experiences and thoughts to his or her own mind. By critically observing this particular human limitation, a reflection on the standard account of knowledge, “Other Minds”, and class discussions thus far will further explore the implications and possible methods of attempting to resolve this problem in epistemology. Specifically this will address the consideration of others’ experiences, other people’s consciousness, and the seemingly unconscious.
He explains that reductionism only accounts for reducing the mind to physics. However, it leaves out consciousness. Therefore, according to Nagel, reductionism is inaccurate because it excludes subjective experience. In order to explain his point, Nagel provides the reader with an analogy using bats. He states that the he is able to imagine himself with webbed arms, which permit him to fly around at night catching insects in his mouth. He expands, and says he is able to imagine that he has poor vision and has to use sonar to communicate, and finally he adds that he is able to imagine hanging upside down in an attic. However Nagel clarifies that these things would only explain what it would be like for him to be a bat. The question he wants answered is what it is like for a bat to be a bat? (423). He explains how if one tries to image this, they are restricted by their own mind. By presenting this information Nagel is able to support his claim because one cannot look and behave like another organism without changing their fundamental structure. One’s experiences cannot be anything like the experience from the point of view of another organism