Piggy And Ralph In Lord Of The Flies

Piggy’s appearance makes him appear ill suited to be on a deserted island, let alone acting as the leader of one. Piggy is fat and has glasses which makes him seem much less charismatic than Ralph. Ralph has a lean physique and no physical hindrances such as

Ralph seems to be incredibly independent whereas Piggy is the opposite and is dependent on others. Ralph wants to do this his way and on his own. He independently creates ideas and does

Piggy lectured them by asking how they could "…expect to be rescued if [they] don't put first things first and act proper?" (45), which is something they did not want to hear, this was proven time and time again when the boys not let him speak without interruption even when he had the conch shell. Piggy's greatest asset was also his weakest point; the only way he could relate to the other boys was at an intellectual level, whereas the other boys could only relate on an emotional level. Ironically, in spite of his intelligence and logic, rational thought, from the beginning of the novel, Piggy was a social outcast.

In the quotation above shows the conversation between Piggy and Ralph. Piggy realizes that there is an empty island. He says to Ralph that this is only an island without residents and all of his friends were dead. Then, the people outside of the island also had gone because the bomb attacks. So Piggy assumes that there is no body could come to the island. Therefore, piggy said they can live there until they die. It makes Ralph’s id pushes him into feeling worried. At first, Ralph very confident that there is someone who will rescue them immediately, suddenly, the statement by Piggy makes Ralph doubt. However, Ralph’s id which is his life instinct in that time is more dominant make Ralph becomes convinced again. He said he went to the top of

Both of the boys change a lot during their stay on the island. Ralph begins the novel as a leader and role model to the other boys. But eventually, the group gives in to savage instincts and Ralph's position

Piggy’s physical appearance contributes to his position as an outsider within the society of boys. When Piggy and Ralph first meet, Ralph remarks on Piggy’s shortness of breath to which Piggy responds, ¨ That’s right. Can’t catch my breath. I was the only boy in our school what had asthma, said the fat boy with a touch of pride, ‘And I’ve been wearing specs since I was three¨ (Golding 9). This quote describes Piggy as a fat boy with asthma and glasses, while the other boys are skinny and do not share any of the same characteristics as him. In addition, the author contributes to the outcasting Piggy by never revealing his real name and only describing Piggy as the “fat boy.” This proves that in this society, Piggy is not worth getting to

Both of the boys change a lot during their stay on the island. Ralph begins the novel as a leader and role model to the other boys. But eventually, the group gives in to savage instincts and Ralph's position

     Piggy in the beginning of the book was using his common sense, he was intelligent, he knew what was right from wrong, and he could condone things that made him angry easily. In the beginning of the book, (pg. ) Ralph told everyone his name was Piggy even though Piggy specifically told Ralph that he didn't like to be called that name Piggy later condoned Ralph's action with great ease. Piggy's action's and behavior depended on his glasses. Piggy and his glasses symbolized intelligence, he represents the rational side of civilization. With the glasses it seemed as though Piggy made all the right choices, and he helped Ralph know what needed to be done with the tribe. Without his

so he knows how to lead but although he has the confidence to lead he

He is eventually chosen as leader on account of his many positive qualities. He maintains a conflict with Jack throughout the entire novel, trying to keep order while Jack isn't as dedicated to it. The next person you meet in the story is a short fat boy, who wears spectacles. He is the most intellectual boy on the island, but since he has no social skills, he is usually in the background trying to maintain the peace. Together Ralph and Piggy represent the struggle for order and democracy.

First, Piggy lacks what a necessary trait in any successful leader: charisma. He is socially awkward, and he has a hard time fitting in with the other boys his age. The boys have a hard time seeing anyone other than an overweight boy with big "specs". Piggy is also intellectually superior to the other boys. He has the rationale of an adult and is easily able to see the difference between what the boys should be doing and what they shouldn't be doing.

Each of the boys had a opinion and an idea on how the society should be run in order to increase their chances of survival,  although two boys seemed to both have extremely strong opposing opinions on how things should be run, piggy an outspoken and picked on character that seems to get judged at every turn in the story from his name to his looks he just can’t get a break, to me he seems like the reality of society, how everyone is judged no matter where they go or what they do to get there, although he also shows an intellectual side, he gives ralph information and insight and ralph calls meeting to bring piggy’s ideas to attention,ralph is more of the idea of society the face of the company the good, not to mention he also shows the crumbling the society when, the oh so holy followers, turn on him and trade in for child like play where as  he shows more of the adult side of things the reality of surviving, Jack was the other or the wannabe chief, jack shows signs of jealousy, and the want to be free of all restrictions all things we experience as children, but we don’t appreciate these restrictions until we are older, jack represents the child that they all want to be while on the island, playing all day and no consequences for what we do or how we get what we want, jack creates his own tribe claiming that they hunt all day and that there are no rules, feasting all night on the meat that  they hunt, this is a child's fantasy right playing all day n chores and all the food they can eat, although this doesn’t end up being  such a fantasy in real life, they turn into a pack of sadists performing rituals for the so called beast and painting their faces with the blood of the killed pigs, they don’t ever really see the consequences in what they do and how they do it, and if any one questions how they do things, they twist their words to tell them why jack is right and that the offender is wrong, they are also the ones who end up killing simon out of fear, i believe

And another reason I would chose Piggy to be leader he talks with everyone he is going to hear what they have to say. Other things about Piggy is a person that would observe his surroundings unlike Ralph that just got up and jumped around and said “yay no adults”. But some bad things about Piggy is that he is not as fit as Ralph and he has asmuth and he can’t see as well without his glasses and he wouldn't be able to keep up with the group if he wasn’t leading and that could slow everyone down and if they were to become low in food storage and Piggy still wasn’t helping then they would just be feeding him and that could be bad because they are trying to survive. Piggy would be a good leader still because Ralph still thinks that his dad is coming to save them and Ralph doesn't know whether his dad left him or if he really is in the air force but

The boys were living in a new realm when on the island, a realm with no rules, laws and almost a sense of corruption. The world outside of the island, however, disappeared when they arrived on the island. They had to start from scratch when building a new life on the island so that it could replace the old world. Ralph is caught in a moment of weakness as he contemplates about withdrawing from being chief. The assemblies that Ralph had worked hard to create were meant to be filled with order, but have been corrupted by anarchy and turmoil instead.

The friendship between Ralph and Piggy in the beginning of the story is that piggy is this one nerdy kid that is really shy because when he gets dragged into a problem or something .Piggy protects himself by using his glasses as an excuse. In pararaph 29 , he is starting to get picked on by Jack who calls him fatty. Then Ralph steps in, you would think he had done this to stop the harrasment, but no he calls him piggy, and for a second you thought he was your freind or gaurd. So after this they all decide to calm down and take a walk on the beach and scout for land. Jacks effect on friendship is not looking good for him because of his rudeness on the choir and how Jack makes the choir stand in a straight line right after they just survived