Submit to the appointed view of a few? In Plato’s Republic, during the City and Speech outline, Socrates speaks to the role of the political community to both shape the individual and guide the individual towards his or her highest potential. In drastic contrast to modern liberals, Socrates prescribes the political state or select elite as the originator of what defines the ideal good life and ultimately what it means to reach ones respective arête comes within the authoritative realm of the overarching political community. It is modern liberals that correctly reject this top down approach instead leaving the atomistic individual, through their respective differentiated life experiences, to settle for themselves what respectably defines reaching arête or reaching the highest form of the good life. Through independent life experiences, not the edicts of the political community, do individuals form their ideal form of the good life. Outlined by Socrates in the Republic, during the City and Speech, he calls for societal fundamentals of socialism, centralizing control over the citizens idea of the good life. This desire can be seen through Socrates discussion of where achievement of happiness or the ideal good life originates, particularly for whom it is aimed, for the city as a whole unit and not for any particular societal segment, grouping or individual. Further Socrates also contends in opposition to inequalities in wealth. The City and Speech features facets of
The Republic by Plato examines many aspects of the human condition. In this piece of writing Plato reveals the sentiments of Socrates as they define how humans function and interact with one another. He even more closely Socrates looks at morality and the values individuals hold most important. One value looked at by Socrates and his colleagues is the principle of justice. Multiple definitions of justice are given and Socrates analyzes the merit of each. As the group defines justice they show how self-interest shapes the progression of their arguments and contributes to the definition of justice.
Answer: The dialogue explores two central questions. The first question is “what is justice?” Socrates addresses this question both in terms of political communities and in terms of the individual person or soul. He does this to address the second and driving question of the dialogue: “is the just person happier than the unjust person?” or “what is the relation of justice to happiness?” Given the two central questions of the discussion, Plato’s philosophical concerns in the dialogue are ethical and political. In order to address these two questions, Socrates and his interlocutors construct a just city in speech, the Kallipolis. They do
The concept of living “the good life” means something different for everyone. There is a general understanding that living “the good life” is associated with unyielding happiness and lasting satisfaction. The exact meaning of this desired life was pondered by thinkers and philosophers for hundreds of years. They constructed principals of behavior, thought, and obligation that would categorize a person as “good”. Although some of these ancient philosophies about “the good life” had overlapping ideas, their concepts varied widely. This contrast of ideas can be examined through two major characters in two famous works: Aeneas in “The Aeneid” and Socrates in “The Apology”. Aeneas exemplifies the philosophy that the direct route to “the good life" is through faith, trust in the Gods, and family, while Socrates in “The Apology” emphasizes free will, and vast knowledge of life.
As Socrates was building the city, according to his different accounts of how city ought to be. There were different classes of people and the position they held in the cities community. In a just city as Socrates claims there will be citizens, guardians and a philosopher king as the ruler of the city. In order to maintain order, politics influence on human nature by politically influencing laws such as stopping peoples from changing their division of labour. For example, Socrates claims that it is impossible for an individual to practice many crafts proficiently as discussed by the companions earlier. (Plato, 1992, p. 49). The reason there is division of peoples in the city is so the city can run efficiently, if there were many people doing many thing, there will not be an efficiency of work. For this reason, politics constrained human nature in which individual as human nature wants to do more than one thing, but it is stopped through influence of ideology of how one ought to be. That individual does not want to do one job for the rest of his life; this form of ideology is first form pre capital which was discussed in the republic. Continuing, as politics influence increases in the republic the more constrained human nature becomes. In politics, the political thought of Socrates creates a guardian for city, a protector to defend against an enemy or to conquer land for the city. In
In The Republic Book IV, pp. 130e-136d, Socrates sets out to prove that societal justice is analogous to individual justice. In order to substantiate the analogy, Socrates compares the individual and the city. As he previously defined, justice in the city involves the power relationships between the different parts of the city, namely the guardians, the auxiliaries, and the producers.
Socrates uses his apology to to attack the wealthy and those who chase after positions of power “Wealth does not bring about excellence, but excellence makes wealth and everything else good for men, both individually and collectively” (apology 30b). This quote provides two insightful pieces of knowledge about Socrates. The first is that it shows his perception of wealth and what it is to be truly wealthy, to Socrates quality of life is wealth. The second is it shows that Socrates believes that doing the right thing will lead to a better quality of life, or what he considers to be wealth.
In Plato’s The Republic and The Apology, the topic of justice is examined from multiple angles in an attempt to discover what justice is, as well as why living a just life is desirable. Plato, writing through Socrates, identifies in The Republic what he thought justice was through the creation of an ideal city and an ideal soul. Both the ideal city and the ideal soul have three components which, when all are acting harmoniously, create what Socrates considers to be justice. Before he outlines this city and soul, he listens to the arguments of three men who hold popular ideas of the period. These men act to legitimize Socrates’ arguments because he finds logical errors in all of their opinions. In The Apology, a different, more down-to-Earth, Socrates is presented who, through his self-defense in court, reveals a different, even contradictory, view of the justice presented in The Republic. In this paper, the full argument of justice from The Republic will be examined, as well as the possible inconsistencies between The Republic and The Apology.
In The Republic Book IV, Plato described a near-ideal city-state. The existence of this city-state requires a critical cornerstone which is the noble lie. Also, the noble lie is a belief that is accepted by the members of the city. In the noble lie, Socrates divided the souls of people in a city-state into four levels which are gold, silver, copper, and iron. At the same time, he distinguishes human soul and status according to the value of the metal that the person' soul has.
Socrates thinks that now that they've set up this imaginary city, they can try and figure out where in this city justice exists. They agree that since they've created a city that is perfectly good and has all of the virtues. They identify these virtues as wise, courageous, moderate, and just. Socrates recommends that they should try to identify where each of these qualities lies. First, they identify wisdom first.
In the Republic of Plato, the philosopher Socrates lays out his notion of the good, and draws the conclusion that virtue must be attained before one can be good. For Socrates there are two kinds of virtue; collective and individual. Collective virtue is virtue as whole, or the virtues of the city. Individual virtue pertains to the individual himself, and concerns the acts that the individual does, and concerns the individual’s soul. For Socrates, the relationship between individual and collective virtue is that they are the same, as the virtues of the collective parallel those of the Individual. This conclusion can be reached as both the city and the soul deal with the four main virtues of wisdom, courage, moderation, and justice.
To show this, Socrates likens himself to a GADFLY (a horsefly). Just as a gadfly constantly agitates a horse, preventiung it from becoming sluggish and going to sleep so too Socates, by (moving through the City) stirring up conversations in the marketplace, prevents the City from becoming sulggish and careless and intolerant (thinking it knows something when it doesn't).
In the Greek society, there was enough wine and spirits for Socrates and his buddies to philosophize on the world around them, beginning the conversation of what is just and not. Ideas transform throughout the conversations of Socrates, Adeimantus, and Glaucon in the Republic forming what justice is in the opinion of Socrates. This opinion, the city in speech, is challenged by Adeimantus and Glaucon but Socrates eloquently responds to their challenges. Socrates’ answers with his city of speech are effective against the challenges of Adeimantus and Glaucon because every human has a soul with decency that is almost impossible to deny.
As one of the most significant works in philosophy, The Republic has been one of the most historically and intellectually influential basis of many political theories and philosophical approaches since its first appearance. It is also crucial to mention that the book contains both Plato’s and Socrates’ arguments of life and the view of the Athenian Democracy in the ancient Greek world. Therefore, it can be confusing and complicated to decide to which philosopher the arguments belong. The main focus of the book is to find the definition and the whereabouts of order, justice and to establish a just state, as well as to prove that a just man is happier than the unjust man by providing examples. The true importance of The Republic lies in the fact that everything has meaning in it, not only the arguments, but also the people who act as metaphors for the different kind of roles, which they fulfill in the Athenian society, furthermore the way they speak symbolizes those roles and every one of them embodies a part of the soul and the city-state. Even though it is not obvious, Plato / Socrates criticizes the Athenian society and tries to establish a new, ideal one with the different people he meets and talks to in the book.
1. Four Virtues- Throughout this chapter Socrates starts to really crack down about what justice in the city would look like rather than to only be describing different aspect of the city. When it comes down to it, the city’s main virtues can be broken down into four main categories: wisdom, courage (specifically civic courage), motivation, and justice. Socrates is still struggling to define what justice in a city looks like so he decides that if he can define what the other three virtues in the city look like then he can take everything else not accounted for and that should be justice.
Throughout Republic, Socrates discusses elements that comprise his ideal city. More specifically, in Republic X, Socrates examines the impact of poetry on his noble state. Coming from a negative standpoint, Socrates says that poetry is detrimental to the city for two reasons: one is that, “[poetry] arouses, nourishes, and strengthens this [inferior] part of the soul and so destroys the rational one…”, and the other, “an imitative poet puts a bad constitution in the soul of each individual by making images that are far removed from the truth and by gratifying the irrational part…”.