##al And Ego In William Golding's Lord Of The Flies

Meanwhile, Ralph values the group over himself, and wants everyone to have a say in any decisions made. Jack gets fed up with his lack of power, so he decides to try to become the leader. He asks if anyone wants to come with him, and says, “Hands up?’ said Jack strongly..... ‘How many think –’ His voice trailed off. The hands that held the conch shook. He cleared his throat, and spoke loudly. ‘All right then.’ …. The humiliating tears were running from the corner of each eye. ‘I’m not going to play any longer. Not with you’”(127). Jack acts like a little kid in this scene. This hunger for power demonstrated by Jack has made him corrupt, so much that he will not tolerate being with the others if he can’t be the leader. Jack tries to portray an image of manliness, but it is evident that it is not true when he starts crying. Qualities like this are why Jack is incapable of being the leader. Overall, Ralph is able to handle the power that he is given in a more mature way than Jack.

Jack is trying to help but he somehow makes a mess of what he is doing as shown here, “A fire! Make a fire! At once half the boys were on their feet, Jack clamored among them, the conch forgotten. Come on! Follow me! The space under the palm trees was full of noise and movement. Ralph was on his feet too, shouting for quiet, but none heard him. All at once the crowd swayed toward the island and was gone-following Jack.”(Golding, 17) Whenever Jack feels like he has something to do, he gets too anxious and tries to complete it without giving it a full thought while Ralph on the other hand is always giving it another thought so what they do won’t kill any of them. Jack acts very childish in this quote which makes full sense of why he was not leader and Ralph is. Jack shows very childish behavior which does not make him a good leader for society in this quote, "I ought to be chief," said Jack with simple arrogance, "because I'm chapter chorister and head boy. I can sing C sharp." (Golding, 16) Jack shows arrogance while trying to be chief which shows that Jack can easily ruin the society with quick and easy remarks that are not thought through. Jack is proving that he is not worthy of becoming a leader to the tribe. As shown by the quotes, Jack is going to ruin society with his arrogance and Ralph is just going to make things more civilized so they can keep civilization inside of them instead of

Golding’s Lord of the Flies takes the structural model of personality and uses it to represent Jack, Ralph, and Piggy in the novel. He uses them to show how they interact with each other in society. He wants the readers to understand that the id makes decisions and actions that feels good for themselves, and not for others. The superego wants to help out society, and follow good morals, but often gets overpowered and ignored by the id. Lasty, the ego is a balance of the two, and listens to both the superego and the

People show who they really are when there are no rules and chaos takes over. A man named Sigmund Freud creates the idea that all people are made up three main characteristics. The fist characteristic is the Id, wanting anything that will bring it immediate happiness. The Ego is the second characteristic, feeding the Id in socially acceptable ways to continue getting what it wants. The final characteristic is the Superego. The Superego is developed last and is the part of all humans that does things for the greater good. In William Golding’s Lord of the Flies, Golding uses three characters to represent the idea of Id, Ego, and Superego. William Golding uses a character named Jack to represent the Id, doing anything to get what he wants. Golding uses Ralph to represent the Ego, trying to get what he wants in socially acceptable ways. Finally, a boy named Piggy is used to represent the Superego, doing things for the greater good of the group. The three characters represent the three main characteristics that every human has, Jack is the Id, Ralph is the Ego, and Piggy is the Superego.

Ralph teaches us a lesson that Jack cannot. Keeping a democracy in civilization is crucial for survival. He also teaches that children need guidance and discipline. Ralph makes it clear that without the establishment of rules many problems would be caused, as shown in the novel when all the boys act out. A similarity between Jack and Ralph is that their rivalry caused society and civilization to be torn, without that the community will not function properly. Another point to compare and contrast between Jack and Ralph is their relationships between each other, and the other boys as well. From the get go Jack is by far more confident in himself and his ability to talk to others. He knows what he wants and he is not afraid to get it, even if that means being rude to others along the way. Unlike Ralph who immediately comes off as timid and uninterested when he first starts talking to Piggy and a few other boys. A similarity between Jack and Ralph is that they create a small liking to each other in the beggining, caused by agreement in sharing different roles in leadership, shown in this quote, “Jack and Ralph smiled at each other with shy liking. The rest

In William Golding's Lord of the Flies a group of English school boys crash land onto an uninhabited island somewhere in the Mid Atlantic ocean. Ralph, the protagonist and also the elected leader, tries to maintain peace and avoid any calamity on the island. However, Jack is neither willing to contribute nor listen because he is jealous of Ralph and has a sickening obsession with killing boars. Ralph has some good traits that help him maintain peace and balance for a period of time. He is charismatic and has natural leader attributes. Gradually though some of the other characters are killed due to the irresponsibility and savagery of Jack's actions. In this novel, the author conveys a messege through Freud's theroy of Id, Ego, and

What happens next shows that Ralph is already starting out as a weak leader. William Golding writes “The circle of boys broke into applause. Even the choir applauded; and the freckles on Jack’s face disappeared under a blush of mortification. He started up, then changed his mind and sat down again while the air rang. Ralph looked at him, eager to offer something. ‘The choir belongs to you, of course’” (Golding 23). Directly after Ralph gains the role of chief, he already shows that he is a soft leader because he gives up some of his authority just so that Jack won’t feel bad. Even though Jack doesn’t really do anything about this, I think that in the back of his mind he knows that Ralph should not be the one leading the boys and that is why it ends so badly. Ralph should've kept total control of all the boys, so that he would not look weak. If he would’ve done this it would’ve been much harder for them to gang up against Ralph because Jack would have absolutely no power to begin with. At this point Ralph has no control over the choir, but he doesn’t realize the power he had just given up. This is the first of many mistakes that Ralph made leading up to the tragedy on the

Jack gets mad at Ralph. Because he blamed by Ralph and he is always a lot of set up. This makes her get bored and go away from Ralph. Jack felt that he more deserves to be a leader. Then, this separate do not make him doubt at all. It is because Jack has an ability of hunting to survive on the island. In addition, there are other kids who follow him and accompanied him to keep each other. it make him sure for what he has decided. It show by Jack's speech when he says that Ralph was not the one leader who deserved,

The initial act that started the rift between Ralph and Jack began with a blatant disregard of Ralph’s order to keep the fire going. Ralph exclaimed, “There was a ship. Out there. You said you’d keep the fire going and you let it out!” (Golding 70). Jack was too concerned with hunting and feeling like a leader to fulfill his duty of keeping the fire going. This was Ralph’s first and most important rule in his own eyes, and Jack betrayed him. It was the initial event that created a rift between the two of them, and it only got worse from there.

As one can see from the start, Jack's tribe changes their lifestyles to a primitive state, while Ralph's seeks the future in life. Ralph thus thinks on a more matured level by learning from past mistakes, while Jack only seeks the fun out of life. This is the main reason why Ralph's group, even though lonesome, still prevails. Ralph and Jack indeed set different rules under each other's turf. The two leaders follow different beliefs, and thus have different lives to live, and groups to lead.

The Id contains a human’s primitive drive and operates according to the pleasure principle, whereby its two main goals are the seeking of pleasure and the avoidance of pain.(http://changingminds.org/explanations/personality/freud_personality.htm).In the book Lord of the Flies the author introduces the charcter Jack a young kid, but starts to change as a person. He represents ID, by his action of needing and wanting things. Being part of Ralph's group all Jack wanted to do was hunt, and hunt nothing else just the need to hunt for pigs. Soon after that he then decides to leave the group of boys to start his own group of hunters to be in charge and command. As the mind keeps growing and developing a human can show improvement which brings up Ego.

Throughout the novel both characters, Ralph and Jack have a thirst for power. One may say that Jack is a stronger leader due to his persuasiveness with his need for power, but on the other hand Ralph is a great natural leader. From the beginning Ralph shows interest in getting home while leading the group of boys. Ralph may be young but he seems to have a general idea on how to get the group going in the right direction.  He has an innate ability to split the group up and give them the important tasks that need to be done to survive for several days for example: tending to the fire, and hunting which was Jack and the choirboys job. To be a good leader you must stay positive which Ralph is able to do majority of the time by persistently believing that everyone

Throughout the novel, these concepts are presented through the characters of Jack, Ralph, Simon and Piggy, ultimately resulting in conflict between themselves. In Lord of the Flies, Golding first presents the mindset of the conflict id through Jack. Id is the part of the mind that makes instinctive impulses. For instance, Jack is obsessed with hunting and

Throughout Lord of the Flies, readers follow the ever changing relationship between Ralph and Jack. They begin as friends, trekking up the mountain together on their first adventure since landing on the island, but there is an underlying anger boiling just below the surface as Jack feels he is more deserving than Ralph to be chief. This anger soon becomes more obvious as Jack attempts to devalue Ralph’s authority by blatantly criticizing the rules he has set forth. Although readers see them come together again when united against the beast, Jack’s refusal to be “second-in-line” in the hierarchy of power resurfaces, but much stronger this time. Thus he forms his own group, led by fear of both Jack and of the beast. Ralph, on the other hand, does not see it fit to run a group with such a lack of civility. He takes matters into his own hands as he joins the feast at Castle Rock, “to make sure nothing happens,” (Golding 208). However, as the night wears on and Ralph gains a better sense of how the group will be run, he becomes more critical, challenging Jack’s newfound authority as he addresses everyone: “‘I’m chief,’ said Ralph, ‘because you chose me. And we were going to keep the fire going. Now you run after

Jack, negatively portrayed in comparison to Ralph, tempts the boys with an array of forbidden treats, indulging their most violent, suppressed desires in an attempt to lull them away from the security of Ralph. In a sense, Jack is negatively compared to Ralph throughout the novel, and is often portrayed as confused and violent, very aware of the evil inside of him: “The real problem that arises among the boys involves their own inner nature…” (Johnston 2). When his plan fails, Jack feels as though his seat of power is threatened and therefore resorts to terrorizing, threatening and essentially forcing the boys to join him and align themselves against Ralph, alienating them from their former, comfortable life-style and thus making what they once failed to appreciate all the more desirable.