Ethics are what separates civilized men from savages, driving their decisions, and determining their destiny. The actions of both Dionysius and Socrates, in both Bacchae and Phaedrus respectively, are driven by their personal ethics and beliefs in justice. Bacchae, a Greek tragedy written by Euripides, tells the story of the Greek God Dionysus's arrival to ancient city of Thebes, and the city’s reaction towards him and his strange religion. Phaedrus on the other hand is a dialogue, written by Plato, about a series of arguments between Socrates and Phaedrus starting with what makes a good speech, journeying into the fundamental understanding of the universe itself. Dionysius, the protagonist of Bacchae, having returned from south east Asia, …show more content…
Dionysius here is essentially listing the injustices he as suffered by the city of Thebes, promising to make undo any harm he causes after being accepted, warns that his rejection will result in his wrath, and finally disguises himself as preacher to find willing followers. Dionysius views on justice are what separates him from the other gods, in that he acknowledges the harm his actions will bring to Thebes, promising to undo all the damage upon their acceptance of him, while most of the other gods would leave after satisfying their quest for vengeance. The most important line in this quote is the last sentence "I've transformed myself, assumed a mortal shape, altered my looks, so I resemble any human being (70-73)", in that he wants people to choose to follow him out of their own free will, rather than forcing or scaring the people into compliance. So, Dionysius starts out with good intentions, he wants to gain willing followers into his religion, achieve justice for the defamation of his mother, and be worshiped by other, but is forced to make good on his promise to
he Greek sculptor Praxiteles made the sculpture Hermes and the infant Dionysos in ca.340 BCE. The story goes a mortal woman was pregnant by Zeus, she dies while pregnant and Zeus takes the child, and sews the baby into his thigh until he was ready to be born. Many assassins tried to kill Dionysos so Zeus had Hermes take him away to be safe. This sculpture shows Hermes resting in the forest during a journey to deliver Dionysos to Papposilenos and the nymphs, who will raise the child. Hermes is leaned against a tree trunk, in a shallow ‘S’ curve as he gazes into space while enticing the infant with is said to be a bunch of grapes.
There is no doubt to the fact that Socrates and Martin Luther King Jr. had similar characteristics—whether it be their willingness to make the public aware or their passion to do what was right to them. But to say that Martin Luther King Jr. is a twentieth century Socrates does not seem fit to par. The way I will attempt for you to understand this will proceed as follows: I will first explain each of our character’s stories, perhaps heavily implicating some of their most distinct characteristics that can be discovered from the text. I will proceed to include their similarities, as well as their differences. Then I will attempt to explain both subjects’ profession/title, and comment on how the two may have similar things they want to
Purposely difficult and intentionally obsessive, Plato’s Phaedrus is an exceedingly difficult read that defies all conventional logic as a piece of discourse. The text is extremely subjective, open to interpretation and individual creativity as to what or whom the narrative is about. Written by Plato, a close disciple of Socrates, this text is set along the Illissus river where Phaedrus and Socrates meet for a day of speech, debate, rhetoric and okay…flirting. Phaedrus leads of the day and recites a speech by his close friend Lysias, who Phaedrus considers to be a top speechmaker. Socrates then, after chiding by Phaedrus unleashes two speeches of his own that overshadow and refute Lysias claim so boldly that Phaedrus is so taken by the
One piece of advice offered by Epictetus that Socrates would agree with is that “if you want to make progress, let people think you are a mindless fool about externals, and do not desire a reputation for knowing about them” (#13). Socrates does not try to convince others that he has supreme knowledge or expertise, nor does he have the desire too. However, since the oracle proclaimed that Socrates is the wisest of all men, he repeatedly proves to pompous individuals that they are not wise, even though they think they are. Socrates is considered so wise because he consciously admits what he doesn’t know, rather than lying to himself like most other men (Apology, 22 d-e).
Next, Euthyphro says that piety is “that which is pleasing to all the gods.” He further explains his father has been charged with murder. All gods are not favorable to those who commit such an act. Socrates argues that there are certain times that murder would be favorable. For example, killing someone in defense of the self. Also, killing someone in the defense of others. A soldier on the battlefield who faces his enemy is not viewed as a murderer but as a hero. The context in which a murder happens is what determines if it is an act that the gods will favor.
In a section of the Gorgias dialog, from 466-468e, Socrates argues with Polus about the status of orators in a city. Polus believes that they hold the greatest power and influence and are ones held in high regard. Socrates, however, concludes that they hold no power and that they do “just about nothing they want to, though they certainly do wwhatever they see most fit to do” (466e).
In page 7, Socrates starts by questioning Meletus about the living area of people. Miletus believes that Socrates “corrupting and deteriorating the youth” intentionally, so he charges Socrates. But according to Socrates’ query, nobody is willing to get the bad influence “intentionally”. Besides, Socrates never corrupt anyone. Even if he has, he does it unintentionally. Therefore, Socrates states that Meletus’ charge of him is illogical. “You hated to converse with me or teach me, but you indicted me in this court, which is a place not of instruction, but of punishment.” He believes that he is not guilty. Even if he is, he should not come to this court and facing the charges.
Euthyphro and Socrates meet unexpectedly, in the court of justice. Meletus pursued charges against Socrates, and Euthyphro was prosecuting his own father for murdering a laborer. Prosecuting his own father contains disloyalty to the gods, or impiety. Socrates is on trial for the corruption of the youth, creating his own ideas or methods in religious matters. Due to the prosecution of Euthphros’s father, Socrates thinks that Euthyphro is an expert in religious maters and laws. Euthyphro is committed to his knowledge, assuring everything is correct according to him. Euthyphro confirms the understanding of piety and holy and instructed to Socrate, which may assist him in trial against Meletus. Euthyphro states that holiness is oppressing religious
1. According to Thrasymachus, justice is what suits the strongest. Since he is stronger he dictates what is right or wrong according to his convenience. Thrasymachus argues that each government makes the laws.
In Plato’s Theaetetus, the dialog between Socrates and his student, Theaetetus, sets up the argument that knowledge is true belief that is adequately justified. Although there are many examples that prove Plato’s suggestion, people such as Edmund Gettier have questioned and disproved the notion of knowledge as justified true belief. In response to Gettier’s findings, many have tried to modify or find an alternative to the Justified True Belief model in search for the true definition of knowledge. In this paper, I will outline and discuss Plato’s Justified True Belief argument, outline and discuss Gettier’s response to Plato’s argument, and lastly, present and analyze four solutions to the Gettier problems.
Euripides uses the god Dionysus in The Bacchae in order to emphasize that humans need to embrace irrational behavior in their day to day lives. In Thebes, Dionysus finds a structured and ordered society, with their goal simply being to work as hard as possible, while Dionysus aims to simply live to have fun and make merry. Due to the disrespect given to him by the Thebans as a result of their differences, Dionysus aims to take revenge and force the people to worship him by destroying their society and recreating it in his image. Dionysus and Theban society are complete opposites. Dionysus is considered to be the god of wine and merriment.
Socrates is invited into Polemarchus’ home, he begins to engage in a conversation with Cephalus where they eventually discuss the meaning of justice using Socratic dialectic. A Socratic dialectic is a cooperative discussion where common opinions, that most people will say when asked, are exchanged through socialization. To showcase Socratic dialectic in the conversation, Cephalus answers Socrates’ question and states his own view of what is justice which is to follow the law, which is divine, and to tell the truth. Socrates begins to engage Cephalus’ stance on justice which leads to the deduction behind his viewpoint. Cephalus’ reasoning for this definition hails from his elderly age where his wealth is enabling him to be just via paying
The beginning of the discussion about a guardian's lifestyle begins with Polemarchus and Adeimantus asking Socrates about his statement about sharing spouses and children in common. Socrates argues that the rules of procreation is the only way to ensure a unified city and has support to answer these questions.
Ignorance: the condition of being uninformed or uneducated; this basic definition is crucial to understanding one of the most controversial figures in ancient Athenian society: the philosopher Socrates. The man’s entire life was devoted to proving the fact that no one actually knew what they thought they did; that everyone lived in ignorance. This viewpoint earned Socrates many enemies, so many that even a renowned playwright, Aristophanes, decided to exploit the situation. He wrote his critiquing play of Socrates called The Clouds; a scathing criticism that the philosopher would partially attribute to his future indictment on charges of impiety and corrupting the
Theaetetus grasps Socrates meaning that for any object of a person’s judgment that object has to be know or unknown. The elaborate more on “object of a person” that phrase is reflected by Plato’s use of the verb "to judge" labeling a direct object figure. Henceforth it is used by Plato in the understanding judging that X or judging that Y, whereas X and Y are objects of judgment. Moreover, it is impossible for a person not to know an object if the object is already known, hence, if a person has an object in his mind, then he cannot fail to know it. Socrates frames out three cases applying to false judgment is not being possible. In the first case he bbeginsby saying, “Now take the man who judges what is false. Is he thinking that things which he knows are not these things but some other things which he knows – so that knowing both he is ignorant of both” (Theaetetus, 188b)? in the second case, he then goes on to say, “Then is he imagining that things which he doesn’t know are other things which he doesn’t know? Is it possible that a man who knows neither Theaetetus nor Socrates should take it into his head that Socrates is Theaetetus or Theaetetus Socrates” (Theaetetus 188b2)? lastly, in the third case, he says, "But a man certainly doesn’t think that things he knows are things he does not know” (Theatetus,188c). Therefore, since these three possibilities are the only possibilities given the presumption that each thing is known or unknown, hence making false judgment