and Thrasymachus discusses and argues about the nature of Justice in the society. Thrasymachus says in The Republic "Listen—I say that justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger". It can be noticed that Thrasymachus is stating a moral judgment He also states that justice is a tool for those who are weak. A conclusion is based on the fundamentals of the topic of the argument. Even if the views are completely different, there is a still some sense of similarity in Thrasymachus views
Polemarchus ends up defining justice as what is in the interest of the majority party. Q2. Thrasymachus argues that justice is simply "what is the interest of the stronger." What does he mean by this statement? What arguments does Socrates present in order to refute Thrasymachus's position? The statement by Thrasymachus implies that justice is the wishes of the strong persons in the society. The weak, poor and destitute have cannot get justice unless what
In Book I of the Republic after trying not to intervene in the discussion between Socrates and Polemarchus, Thrasymachus abruptly inserts himself into the conversation to offer his definition of justice. He defines justice as “the advantage of the stronger” (Plato 338c). Thrasymachus goes on to elaborate that the advantageous are the rulers of cities and that it is the ruling element in each city that makes the laws has the power. He claims that each ruler makes laws to its own advantage declaring
Jahani Santos November 7, 2014 POLSC 201 Plato Paper #2 Plato In Plato’s Republic, Thrasymachus states, “Justice is nothing else than the interest of the stronger.” This quote states that the government, whether it is a democracy, monarchy, tyranny, etc. those who rule only make laws and decisions that will benefit them. Socrates, trying to further understand his statement, breaks this statement down and they come to an agreement that as society, everyone under the government is subject to
liberty? In the ideal city, there is no value to personal freedom. Everyone is sorted into a specific class by the state without regard to what they would prefer. Considerations of the state outweigh any consideration of the self. 1. How does Thrasymachus’ define justice?
intellectual opponents over various topics.In recent discussions of book one in the book “the republic” between Socrates and Thrasymachus, a controversial issue has been whether justice is for people with power. On the one hand, some argue Socrates is a right and that justice is for the powerful but will inevitably fail. From this perspective, I believe that Thrasymachus is right and that justice is for the powerful and will always be for the powerful. On the other hand, however, others argue
Adeimantus present a challenge to Socrates’ view of justice. Previously, in Book I of the Republic, Socrates presents several counterarguments to Thrasymachus’ belief that it is to your own advantage to practice injustice rather than to follow laws, if you can get away with it (Babcock). Glaucon and Adeimantus sought to present a stronger defense to Thrasymachus’ view. The main viewpoint they try to establish is that it is to our advantage to practice injustice rather than justice and that the good life
In book one of The Republic, Plato introduces the main character, Socrates, and he’s traveling home from a festival with his young friend, Glaucon. Along the way, a few other characters are also introduced. Our characters subsequently begin a debate about old age, when suddenly the debate turns into ones definition of justice. Some characters in particular that make strong argumentative perspectives are Polemarchus and his father, Cephalus. Cephalus definition of the word is “to speak the truth and
Essay Question #1 Thrasymachus believes “justice or right is simply what is in the interest of the stronger party” (Plato p. 18), because Thrasymachus rejects human justice and morality as having any value in furthering the individual’s self-interest. Additionally, Thrasymachus deems self-interest as the guiding force in human behavior. When Thrasymachus states, “Because you suppose that shepherds and herdsmen study the good of their flocks and herds and fatten and take care of them with some other
discussed between the characters in a mere chapter. One section of Book I stood out to me more than most, and that was Thrasymachus’s definition of justice. His observations on justice are often “seen as the first fundamental critique of moral values”. Thrasymachus describes justice as being in the interest of the stronger with an argument that ultimately holds more weaknesses than strengths. Firstly, we must understand why justice is so important for this argument to hold any weight. Justice is something