Angelic Brodmerkle
Jim Bradley
Philosophies of Life 111-800
February 23, 2018
Piety
From a spiritual perspective, people have always believed in a supreme being. However, Plato and ‘The Book of Job’ present two diverse arguments concerning piety. Job is among the few people in the Bible who depict pure righteousness. According to Job, God is the determiner of pious, what is right or wrong. However, when he is asked why he suffers so much, yet he is very religious. In verbatim, he states that “Will he reprove thee for fear of thee? will he enter with thee into judgment?” (King James Version, Job 22:4). Conversely, Job answers this by stating that what humans find in this world they will die and leave behind. From these contentions, Job seems to imply that people will depart the earth with
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Furthermore, he acknowledges God as having done right whereas people only engage in wickedness (Mitchell). Therefore, possessions that people find on earth should, in fact, bring them closer to God, for he has given to them what they have no. Nonetheless, when God decides to take, it does not imply that he has changed his perspective of holy. Instead, it merely means that people have been stripped of there possessions earlier than anticipated since it was bound to happen during death anyway. On the other hand, Plato seems to stand with the idea that gods do not ascribe holiness, they love holy because it is holy. Plato explains this through the example of the Euthyphro. Essentially, Plato expounds on the ideas of Socrates. Socrates asks Euthyphro what holy is and he answers that it is anything that it divinely agreed upon by the gods (Tredennick). However, Plato contends that if this is so, a unanimous agreement that holy is non-existent since each god considers the righteousness of things differently. According to Socrates, therefore, the divinely approved does not explain
At the core of Socrates’ argument is the need to break down the definition of holiness into smaller coherent characteristics. Socrates uses a series of question that are consistent with Euthyphro’s argument to ensure that he [Euthyphro] offers a consistent flow of definitions of the word holy.
In Plato’s Euthyphro, a dialogue between Socrates and Euthyphro, the nature of piety is discussed. Euthyphro proposes several “definitions” of piety and focuses on the relation of piety to the gods. For one of these definitions, he proposes that piety is that which is loved by all the gods. In reply to this, a dilemma arises; and Socrates asks whether the pious, or holy, is loved by the gods because it is pious, or pious because it is loved by the gods. A similar form of this question asks whether the Good, or good action, is commanded by God because it is good, or good because it is commanded by God. If Euthyphro accepts the
One of the central claims of Plato’s Republic is that justice is not only desirable for its own sake, but that it maximises the happiness of those who practice it. This paper examines Plato’s arguments in support of this thesis to determine (a) what he means by happiness, (b) to what extent it exists in his proposed ideal state, and (c) whether this in any way substantiates his claims about the benefits of justice. In particular, I will argue that there are two different conceptions of happiness at play in The Republic, and two methods of achieving its highest form, namely the pursuit of justice and philosophy, before arriving at a final definition of
Plato’s Socratic dialogue the “Euthyphro” concerns itself with the virtuous concept of piety and pious acts. Socrates holds that in order to be considered an expert in piety, one must truly understand what it means to be pious. The desire to distinguish the pious from the impious leads to dialectical discussion ultimately resulting in Euthyphro’s proposition of three definitions, including the proposal that piety is what is loved by all of the Gods (9e). Whilst Euthyphro’s first definitions are immediately rejected by Socrates, on the grounds that they are superficial and contradictory, there is some validity to the argument that piety by definition, is what is loved by all Gods. By amending the definition to add an element of universality
In Plato's dialogue, 'Euthyphro', Socrates presents Euthyphro with a choice: `Is what is pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved [by the gods]?'
Therefore, appealing to action does not clarify what constitutes piety. Moreover one god may perceive Euthyphro’s action as just, while another deplores is as unjust. Another proposition is that piety is what is universally loved by the gods, and impiety is what is universally hated by the gods. However, is the particular action pious because it is loved by the gods or loved by the gods because it is pious? Is piety intrinsically virtuous or virtuous because external praise by the gods? Socrates poses a remarkably timeless question. For example, is it unjust to kill Syrians because human life has intrinsic value, or is it unjust to kill by consensus? Is there an objective moral duty to preserve human life, or is the value of life merely dependent on social
As we have seen, God promises a blessing to those who trust in His word and strive to live by it. Christians do not want to miss out on God’s blessing, especially those waiting for Him to reveal something. Now reading any book of the Bible, even Job, one begins to understand that God will bless you as you strive to study and practice His way of life. The Bible prophetically warns of even more pain in many different forms then what is done here Job, and through this we begin to portray God in a different light (Janzen 2012). However, the book of Job reveals God’s level of intervention during such a violent time. Due to the context and dire situation it would be difficult to imagine anything more then the pain for the members of Job’s family and the community at that time. They needed encouragement and the assurance that the trials Job faced would soon be over. The evil powers of Satan that governed Job’s life for a moment would be destroyed, and a triumphant sense of peace would be reestablished. The message of Job was intended for those in a particular time and circumstances of pain. Christians familiar with other violent writings would understand the book's symbolism, for practically everything Job went through was a test that other biblical figures felt during similar times of persecution. Job’s story was written to all people that may face the same trials, and find peace after their
Socrates was a moral philosopher who was accused of impiety and was about to be tried for a crime, the nature of which no one seemed to understand. The trial and death of Socrates has four dialogs known as the Euthyphro, the Apology, the Crito, and the Phaedo which describes the process of Socrates’ controversial and insightful trial that raises the questions about human morality. Within the story we learned that the relationship between morality and religion might not be as clear-cut as some might think, Socrates forces the witnesses of his trial as well as ourselves to come to conclusions which result in a paradox that conflicts with the individual beliefs of his audience. In the event in which, Socrates poses a question to himself and Euthyphro, an attempt to answer the question "What is piety?" It has a specific tie to the events in “The Trial and Death of Socrates”, for Socrates had been accused of impiety and was about to be tried for the crime of heresy. The Euthyphro dialogue was written twenty-four centuries ago, and its conclusion is devastating for the whole idea that holiness and morality are very well connected. The idea that, “if God does not make something good by commanding it, but rather instead identifies that which is good, what measurement of morality does he use to make this judgment?” If something is right because god commands it, then it follows that something would be just as right if God instructed differently. If god declares that it is right to
Euthyphro intends his definition of piety. If right actions are pious only because the gods love them, then moral rightness is completely
Plato's "Euthyphro" introduces the Socratic student both to the Socratic Method of inquiry and to, or at least towards, a definition of piety. Because the character of Euthyphro exits the dialogue before Socrates can arrive at a reasonable definition, an adequate understanding of piety is never given. However, what piety is not is certainly demonstrated. Euthyphro gives three definitions of piety that fail to mean much to Socrates, who refutes each one. In this paper, I will present Euthyphro's definitions along with Socrates' rebuttals. I will also show that Socrates goal in the dialogue is two-fold: 1) to arrive at a true definition, and 2) to exercise his method of teaching/inquiry. At the conclusion of this paper, I will give my own definition of piety and imagine what Socrates might say in response.
& Jowett, 2013). Socrates refutes this definition since he views that the gods do not need to be assisted by mortals. In his final attempt, Euthyphro defines holiness as an exchange between the gods and human beings. The gods receive sacrifices from us, while we they grant our prayers in exchange. In response, Socrates posits that this perspective implies correlates to the prior argument on the gods’ approval. He states that if holiness is gratifying to the gods, it is ambiguous as seen in the argument concerning what the gods approve, and the influences behind them (Plato. & Gallop, 1997).
Thesis: Traditionally theodicy is expressed as the inability to reconcile the co-existence of a good God and the ever-present evil at work in the world. How could God and evil coexist? Does this mean that God is not stronger than the evil? If God is all-powerful, then is he not willing to save mankind from evil? These questions of theodicy are fundamental to the texts of Ecclesiastes and Job, yet both texts taking on their own motifs on how to cope with the present experience of evil and Yahweh’s coexistence. I will argue both of these texts conclude the only remedy is to fear God in spite of their (Job and Qohelet’s) personal experiences. When life does not make sense, fear God and cling to him.
In his work Euthyphro, Plato introduces a religiously based moral code. This code, the divine command theory, stresses the pleasing of god in one’s moral actions. Plato’s characters, Euthyphro and Socrates, take turns in a debate defending and criticizing this theory. Its flawed nature is uncovered and we as readers are able to notice its advantages and disadvantages. Using these criticisms, revisions to the divine command theory have been made. After analyzing the divine command theory and noting both its advantages and its critiques, I largely agree with the criticisms that are made about it. However, with certain revisions, it can be transformed into a reliable and successful philosophy.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery, the renown author of The Little Prince once wrote, “It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye.” To this day, this quote is one of the most famous quotes of all time, as many people acknowledge the truth in Saint-Exupery’s words: the things that hold the most value or significance are those that are invisible to the human eyes. Two other sources, Plato’s Republic Book X and the Bible, also portray similar ideas as both types of writing give specific attention to the invisible reality. In Plato’s Republic Book X, Socrates seeks the pursuit of reality in invisible things to grasp the ideas of good and evil, and justice. Likewise, in several stories of the Bible, God and his people speak of a truth and law that should be formed and lived out in the hearts of man.
What does it mean to be pious? In Plato's Dialogues and the Book of Job, the search for the explanation can be attempted from the readings about Socrates and Job. The two are very different. One, searches for a definition and questions the meaning of piety, whereas the other, Job, one of the most pious men in biblical history, sets by example the meaning of piety by suffering many of God's punishments and yet he remains unwavering in his faith and God.