For many years, every single comic book lover knew the incredible history of Batman and the Joker. The two are the most known superhero and supervillain duo out there. Have you ever wondered what would happen if Batman decided to kill the joker? Would it actually be a better place if he did decide to kill him? How would it affect Batman? This subject has a great deal of evidence on both side whether he should or should not. The question digs deep inside of the mind of Batman and how he could feel along with what the outcome would be. There are so many questions that need to be answered for those questions. I believe that he is better off leaving him alive rather than dead and here is why.
In the short story called “Should Batman Kill Joker” By Mark D. White and Robert Arp, they took both side on whether it is a good idea or bad. They both give very well details on why he should and why he should not. It shows in detail about what they each think would happen to Batman if he goes either way. Each side shows the thoughts and mental progresses of what would happen. They say in the book that if Batman was to kill the joker, it would save thousands of lives. While it also says that it would look bad on batman for going against his Father's belief. The two authors give their thoughts against both sides of the story thinking in present time and also what could happen in the future.
If Batman was to kill the Joker, what do you think would happen? Yes, the city would be in peace, but
Batman contradicts his morals while he is fighting the mutant leader and when he is about to shoot him he stops himself with “though that means crossing a line I drew for myself thirty years ago”. While Batman did not kill the mutant leader, earlier on Batman shoots a mutant grunt with a machine gun and faded blood is splattered behind the criminal holding a baby captive (Miller, 64). Later on in the novel Batman says to the joker “a gun is a coward’s weapon, a liars weapon” (Miller, 149). Batman has power to stick to his morals, to take on the evil of Gotham City, and to make the decision to deliver justice no matter whose side of the law he is. However, in the novel he has clearly stated that killing someone crosses his morals and that he despises guns yet he uses them to kill criminals. Batman crosses his golden rule of not killing criminals and shows that he will go above his own moral code of justice.
The Joker was once seen as a comical criminal who committed ridiculously silly crimes, such as spreading laughing gas throughout Gotham City. However, after the reinvention of Batman, The Joker was transformed into a grave and terrorizing character. Continuing the course of the new personality given to The Joker, writer Alan Moore and artist Brian Bolland created a graphic novel called The Killing Joke, “a much more complex, darker, and ultimately, frightening story” (Wooldridge) which tells one of the origins of The Joker since The Joker himself is unsure of his true inception. However, this particular graphic novel “isn’t about how the Joker came to be, it’s an examination of
The Dark Knight (2008), directed by Christopher Nolan, demonstrates the idea of good versus evil. Batman is known as the protagonist, and Joker is known as the ultimate villain. The representation of crime in the film is seen from the actions of both characters. The film essentially depicts the act of deviance meaning, “behaviour that violates social norms, including laws”. In normality the government would have the greatest amount of power, but in the Gotham city, power is complex. There is minimal structure of law and order in Gotham city due to powerful people like Batman and the Joker. Citizens of Gotham city can no longer fight for themselves in a world filled with supernatural powers. Therefore, the only hope that citizens have rest in the hands of Batman. Although Batman attempts to save Gotham city from Joker’s criminal intentions. Batman, however, also plays a role in deviant activity while attempting to catch the Joker. Realistically, Batman violates the moral code due to destructive behaviour, and putting the lives of citizens at harm. He does not care for social norms, nor whether his acts are of legality. He is devoted to combat organized crime with Harvey Dent, a district attorney in Gotham city. Batman is in fact, the definition of crime, he understands but does not abide to individual rights and social contracts which make up the rule of law. In addition, the man behind Batman, Bruce Wayne also portrays a form of deviance by disguising himself as Batman.
The Joker, is a purposeless criminal. He will destroy anything, or anyone who gets in his way, just to accomplish his goal, to break Batman's personal rules, to never kill or harm anyone, but to save Gotham City from danger and
If he gets shot by a gun, he’s dead and if he gets stabbed by a knife in a vital area, he’s dead. Batman is too easy to kill and he is a very emotionally unstable guy, which causes him to think very deeply and ponder if he’s a good or bad person.
In today’s time and age, I don’t think we will come across anyone, who is oblivious of the legendary pair of a hero and a villain; batman and the joker. Those who haven’t read the comics, must have watched at least a few of the movies that are based on these characters. Batman is seen as the hero. The joker is seen as a villain. There are a lot of variations in the stories involving these two as it has been incarnated a lot times, but their characters remain the same. The relationship between these two is a representation of “yin-and-yang”.
In the movie The Dark Knight, Batman is faced with a new challenge—dealing with the Joker. Batman, and the city of Gotham, views the Joker as a mysterious, sadistic criminal who is a freak of nature. However, the challenge becomes very personal for Batman as the Joker confronts Batman about everything he believes in. The Joker does this because he has a very relativistic view on life. Even though he murders innocent people, tortures others for amusement, and manipulates everyone he meets, he does not view his actions as wrong. In fact, he does not even believe in an absolute right. He believes that everyone else is crazy for thinking that there is a right and wrong that all people should follow, and he
If criminals are not immediate threats, they 'll be let go. Beowulf follows a similar code. He says to Unferth, “You murdered your brothers, Your own close kin. Words and bright wit/ Won’t help your soul.” (320-323.) Beowulf would not harm anyone unless they would harm innocents. They are also both committed to battling corruption. Beowulf travels many miles from home to aid Hrothgar and fight Grendel. Beowulf knows his heroic duty calls him to protect the people of Daneland, even if they aren 't his. Batman feels it’s his responsibility to fight evil in Gotham. He battles criminals regularly and ultimately ends the Joker 's reign. Batman is not threatened by these enemies, but the people of Gotham are, and thus he fights for them. Batman and Beowulf bear the burden of heroic responsibility well.
In a movie where good and evil are divided by a very thin line, the Dark Knight rises up to fight against injustice and corruption in Gotham City. An action sequel to the original Batman Begins, this installment is a lot darker filled with more explosion, twists, and suspense. For the first time, a comic has been integrated into the issues of the real world. With the help of District Attorney Harvey Dent and Lieutenant Gordon, Batman sets out to dismantle the remaining mob members and clean the streets of Gotham for good. Their success is only short-lived when they encounter the Joker, a mysterious mastermind who is out to prove that nobility cannot hold in a world of anarchy.
Batman: The Dark Knight directed by Christopher Nolan is non-stop action thriller that continually did the unexpected. The film is based off of the original Batman comic book but additionally changes the perception of the everyday world as good to naturally bad. Throughout the movie, Batman stands for honesty and goodness while the Joker is a symbolism of chaos and evil. Both sides are forced to make quick-witted decisions in order to stop the opposing vigilante from doing his desired work. The citizens of Gotham are put in the heart of this circumstance and feel obligated to go against their values to stop the chaos. Numerous people habitually pursue their dreams and values but often become blinded from their
With authors Mark D. White and Robert Arp’s knowledge of science, economics, philosophy and ethics they help us analyze ethical approaches to real-world issues by arguing for the value of pop culture. White and Arp do a great job relating Batman’s relationship with the Joker to America’s choice to torture. This comes together with the quote by Galeano because they both show an underlying meaning of the ethics behind issues with terror and torture. If Batman is to kill the Joker, there would be many different reasons as to why it is not acceptable. One being that since the Joker is a human, it would not be morally okay to kill him. Another reason is that Batman would then have the character of someone who kills their enemy. Although killing an enemy is sometimes glorified, when you look at the bigger picture it will show more about that person’s mentality than you would think. Like the quote says, the purpose of torture is not to gain information, but to spread fear.
It really captured him in the best way possible. The film showed a brilliant criminal mind who got bored doing what normal criminals do. His apathy led him to seek out Batman. He spent the whole movie just trying to make a point that Batman was just as corruptible as the rest of us. He nearly destroyed half of Gotham to in the process, but that was the extent of what he wanted to do. The little dialogue between Batman and the Joker at the police station showed it best. He didn't care about anything, other than chaos. The Joker is a purification about the dark side of a part of us that we don't acknowledge. He is part of the darker side of the way of thinking, not only does he not wants to follow the rules of society, but he actively seeks to destroy the rules as we understand them. In his mind, chaos is the only actual truth in the
Batman’s violent actions in Frank’s Miller comic book demonstrated the darkness of his heroic personality. After ten year retirement, Batman became more troubled to Gotham City turning to a crime-ridden and a fugitive. According to Joseph Campbell words “everything begins with a story”. The beginning of Batman’s story started after the death of his parents. They were shot by some criminals because they were going to steal and hurt them. Having to experienced this horrible scene on his childhood, traumatized Batman
There are two main characters that the storyline revolves around, Batman and the Joker. Batman serves as the guardian of Gotham City. The Joker, however, stands as the villain who strives to create a world of chaos. Hobbes’ theory on state of nature says that society is the sole reason that humans act civilized. Hobbes’ believes in the “state of war,”, which is a way of life that is proven to be brutal and short. The Joker’s main goal is to prove that people have the natural capability to do evil. While he attempts to prove this throughout his many twisted plans, he is driven to eliminate the one thing that keeps Gotham City from turning hopeless and chaotic, Batman. Without its protector, Gotham City would soon turn to a “state of war.” Hobbes’ also says, “Fear makes natural man want to escape the
At that point, according to the Joker, they drop their phony façade and behave like the chaotic, selfish animals that we all are. I submit that his motivation is to conduct social experiments to prove himself correct- that at the core people are controlled by their own selfish needs (while he is only controlled by his own delusion of pretentiousness). He has two men fight to the death with one sharp stick between them. He gives two boatloads of people the detonator to bombs on the other ship. He tells Batman that if he [Batman] wants to catch him [the Joker], that he’s going to have to break his One Rule that was brought up at the end of the first movie—to not kill.