first person in his family to ever attend post-secondary education, but he didn’t go to a four-year college. During his post-secondary education, he went to several community colleges and trade schools, including West Valley and De Anza colleges, to study multiple fields. I asked him for some experiences from that time, but he replied saying, wearily, “I don’t remember, this all took place decades ago.” In the period of American history in which he was raised, a degree wasn’t needed to succeed